RFI: France and Spain in July

I’m going to Barcelona for a conference next month, with a week of travel in France beforehand, and I’m hoping to add some mammal-watching to my trip. Most successful trip reports are from other times of year, but that might be because of the heat rather than the chances of seeing mammals. I have a couple questions:

  1. Is it possible to see Alpine Chamois near Grenoble in July? Any tips on where to search for them?
  2. Is Iberian Lynx get-able in the summertime? Is Sierra de Andujar the best site?
  3. Is there anywhere where I’d have a decent chance to spotlight Pyrenean Desman?

When I purchased my flight, I was hoping to do a separate mammal-watching trip to South America or Borneo, and didn’t budget time for mammal-watching in Europe. I realized this week that that just won’t be possible, so I’m debating changing my return flight from Spain.

Thanks,
Ben
www.tremarctos.com

9 Comments
  1. sjefo 2 weeks ago

    On the lynx, yes go to Andujar (it is the only site where you have a realistic chance on a short visit, Donana is much much harder and would require more driving)! People do see them in July/August in Andujar, and you will have the luxury of a long siesta in the middle of the day. The issue with a July visit might be much lower numbers of other lynx spotters. Part of the high success rate in the cooler months is explained by the large/excessive number of people on the La Lancha road.

    Sjef

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      geomalia 2 weeks ago

      Thanks, Sjef! Do you know if spotlighting is permitted along La Lancha road, or other sites in Andujar?

  2. Vladimir Dinets 2 weeks ago

    My summer trip report should be around here somewhere; I got both the lynx and the desman 🙂

  3. Nicolas 2 weeks ago

    Alpine Chamois are common in most mountains around Grenoble, but most sites will be crowded in July (summer holidays), therefore Chamois would be less easy to spot. At this time of year Chamois will be at high altitude (>2000m) in sites less frequented by hikers. The closest sites would be in the Parc Naturel Régional de Chartreuse (sub species of Chamois R r cartusiana), or the Vercors or the Belledonne or the Bauges (R r rupicapra). Chamois are also abundant in PN de la Vanoise et PN des Ecrins (Ibex are abundant there too). The easiest site to see chamois would be in Italy in the PN Garn Paradiso (chamois are far less shy there) but it is far from Grenoble.
    For desman, a good site in the Pyrenées is the Lac d’Ayous (a series of small lakes at c. 2000m of altitude) where it can be spotted in daytime. Chamois are present there too (R. pyrenaica).
    Nicolas

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      geomalia 2 weeks ago

      Thank you very much for the information! We were considering going to the Vercors. Do you know of a specific location to look for them, where they wouldn’t be disturbed by hikers? I am traveling with my partner who isn’t a mammal-watcher, and will have limited time to search.

      Thanks,
      Ben

  4. natalia 2 weeks ago

    I live close to Andujar and yes you can see the lynx but it is much more difficult because they move mainly during the night

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      geomalia 2 weeks ago

      Are the best areas for Lynx accessible at night? Is spotlighting allowed?

      Thanks,
      Ben

  5. Charles Foley 2 weeks ago

    Hi Ben,

    Technically spotlighting is not allowed in the Sierra Morena’s. However I’ve done it several times and not been stopped. As a foreigner (no speakingo Espanolo) you’d probably be more likely to get away with it than a Spaniard. I was there last July and it was hotter than hell and I didn’t see the lynx on that occasion; the people running the hotel said sightings were much scarcer in the summer because the animals were less active during the day (as Natalia mentioned above). Worth a try though, particularly if you’re going to be in Spain. There is someone based in Andujar who is running lynx watching tours, and it might be worth going out with them, as they would be tuned into where the lynx are likely to be. I don’t have their contact details (I saw some posters they had put up in the local bar in Andujar), but you might be able to find them online.

    Charles

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    geomalia 1 week ago

    Thanks to everyone for the information! I extended my stay in Spain by a week, and am planning to go to Andujar and somewhere in the Pyrenees. I’m hoping to find a site for Desman in the Catalan Pyrenees, but if not, does anyone have a recommendation of how to go from Barcelona -> Lac d’Ayous -> Andujar – > Barcelona in one week?

    Thanks,
    Ben

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