Season 3 of the mammalwatching podcast just dropped and our first guest is birding legend Peter Kaestner

We  open Season 3 of the podcast from the jungles of the Ivory Coast, before talking to Peter Kaestner, the world’s most accomplished birder, in a conversation about listing, luck and life goals.

In February 2024 Peter became the first person ever to see 10,000 bird species and made the news worldwide, though, as we hear at the very end of the episode, the climax of his record came with more plot twists than a Hitchcock movie.

Peter talks about his fiercely competitive family, and his older brother Hank’s pivotal role in starting a lifelong love of birding. He explains how he chose a career that would best support his birding. And that luck – and lucky stones – have played a role in getting him to his 10,000th bird.

NB. We recorded the interview in late January before Peter had broken the record. He joined us again in late March to provide the update at the very end of this episode.

You can stream the episode here or listen wherever you get your podcasts (search for ‘mammalwatching’).



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Jon Hall

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